Françaises Alpes

[lyon]

Dear Friends
I am a member of this forum many years but i have not write for many years too!!
So let me introduce again one more time.
I am from Athens Greece from FazerHellasClub ( http://www.fazerclub.eu/portal/ ) and i own an Fzs1000 of 2005 on which i have already done 160.000km
Unfortunatelly i do not speak France and my name Lyon is coming from a small village in Greece called Lyonas.
I have been all around alps Italian, Austrian, Swiss and this summer of 2013 the plan says France Alps.
So here i am again and i would like you if it is possible to give me some help about the roads, the passes, the accomodation,
what i MUST see or whatever information you think it would be usefull.
Me and my friends love Alps and like very much twisty roads for sport riding
I am thinkig of be there at 10 to 20 of june 2013 (is this a good time of the year for france Alps?? )
and go around these places
http://maps.google.gr/maps?saddr=A8&dad ... ,4&t=m&z=8


Thank you very much
Lyon
Keep riding

[lyon]

Is there anybody here??

[Zeitoon]

You are not alone...

[phil]

Hi Lyon,
end of june could be a quite good period to have a trip in the Alps. But, as it is a mountain area, the weather could change quickly, so keep your raining clothes close !
About the roads, you have the famous "Napoleon"'s road, N75 in the south of the Alps. Then get to the north by the N85, which is quite good too, as I remember.
In the north, all the area under the lake Leman is good too.
You can prepare your roadbooks using google street view, that's what I've done for my trip on the isle of Man, in May.
As it is not the summer holidays in France, you should find a bed quite easilly. And for lunch, you should stop quite everywhere and find a restaurant with good meal.
I hope you like cheese, because there are famous cheeses there !

I think some specialists about the Alps could answer you with more details.

[CuT]

Hey there.

Been in the Alps last summer, and it was definitly a great destination for bikers. Been there in august, and we, indeed, had a few rainy days. I don't know much about the roads really. We just drove anywhere we wanted to, not paying attention to any roadtrip. Some roads were great, some other were really old and damaged, but only a few. I think that most of the road out there are pretty good, and it shouldn't be hard to find some nice " twisty roads for sport riding". However, I really think that these road ain't made for 1000+ bikes. I had a 2008 R1 back then, and it was sometimes a real pain for sport driving. These roads are made for 400~600, such as a KTM 690 duke <3
I cannot talk about the accomodations but it shouldn't be a problem indeed, as you're going in June.
The Annecy lake deserves a stop, but you probably know it already.

I'm uploading some of the vids I made there to show you what you can expect.

[lyon]

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Thank you very much guys for these first informations!
Phil, i will for sure bring those rain clothes i always do, and i LOVE cheese

Cut, i was really thinking this year to come up there with my R1...
(i also own a R1 of 2009) you make my thinking that twice!!!

Whatever you can remember and say to me guys, i would ve gratefull!!!
Thank you again!!!

[lyon]

Great Fazer Love
Antiparos Island


Megara Athens circuit

[phil]

You're welcome, it's my pleasure

[CuT]

Cut, i was really thinking this year to come up there with my R1...
(i also own a R1 of 2009) you make my thinking that twice!!!

The R1 is still awesome and you'll probably enjoy as I did. I'm not saying that it's gonna be rough, but I would recommand a Street Triple instead

Despite its good motor, the R1 is HEAVY ! But the 1000 FZS is probably not really better. Maybe a little bit. But is it worth the privation of a R1?

[lyon]

hahahaha
ok... maybe i come with my R1... its a new love :-)))

But come on guys.... tell me more about france alps.... its your beautifull country
i would say everything to you for Greece if you would ask me !!!
Cut .... this is for you.... i do nota have any other machine

[CuT]

Beautiful I don't really bite to the new R1 lines though.

You should take your R1. The Fazer will not bring any difference compared to the R1, and it would be sad noot to use the R1. Plus, you have some nice side bags

[CuT]

http://youtu.be/FBNlZ6AQBi8

[lyon]

Nice vid and nice road... thank you so much Cut

.... and nice bikes too!!! ( i had that R1 of 08 in black too )

anything else you remember for these mountains would be nice if you could put it here!!!

[lyon]

... i have been all day in the internet searching and
the only thing i can say is.... oh my god.....
so many regions... Rhone Alps, Provence, Savoie, alps maritimes... so many roads so many cities to visit...
this is a little paradise you have there...!!!

[CuT]

this is a little paradise you have there...!!!

Says the guy who lives in Greece I'm sure you have nothing to be ashamed about in Greece, concerning the roads, or the sun needed to ride.

[lyon]

well, about the roads... in Greece certainly you can find very good roads but Alps
are something else... i love them... like people from all around the world....
but you know what the best thing is? That travelling around other countrys with your motorcycle
you began to feel them from the first second like their are your country too
and the only difference is that people speak a different language....
People in Greece need for summer vacation to go at an island.... i need also a week tour on the Alps from France to Austria
Then i am happy

[gab_45]

Hello Lyon,

looks like you & your friends felt in love of teh Alps few years ago.

I don't know the alps except for ski and drive on the highspeed way to reach Italy.

But anyway, I would like to recommend to go to the Mont Cenis lake for the following reason :
1 - on your roadmap, you are crossing the border betwenn France and Italy through a tunnel (Traforo del Frejus betwenn Bardonecchia and Modane). It's pretty expensive (around 40€ by car if I remember well)
2 - you will miss a very nice road to ride (at least last year it was)
3 - I love this artificial lake because it's awesome.
4 - You can spend few mnutes/hours there it's pretty nice. Last year I enjoyed a beautiful sunrise
5 - you can spend a lunch over there (if it's NOT too windy)
6 - If you like Alps cheese, you have a nice shop in LanceLeBourg town.
7 - if it's too windy or you prefer to go to restaurant, you can make a stop to Susa and have an Italy lunch (always good to change food during a trip )
8 - Ride the SP210 to reach the lake from Susa

here a google map roadbook to get a better explication : https://maps.google.fr/maps?saddr=Brian%C3%A7on&daddr=Susa,+Province+de+Turin,+Italie+to:45.1488016,7.0344084+to:45.1743731,7.0144372+to:Lanslebourg-Mont-Cenis,+Savoie,+Rh%C3%B4ne-Alpes+to:Modane&hl=fr&ie=UTF8&ll=45.189296,7.022667&spn=0.18123,0.140762&sll=45.163642,6.868515&sspn=0.370854,0.84938&geocode=FVgcrQId611lACkRQXQDaOSJRzGgqZf9pRkIBA%3BFbbCsAIdCY1rAClrdB1F57aJRzF0qrrApx_8rA%3BFYHqsAIdKFZrACk5Dq-9ObeJRzFzWPS8zCUXTw%3BFWVOsQIdJQhrACnXELCOp7CJRzHU5Ze6pczAzw%3BFRVFsgIdt7ZpACmxTodwrbyJRzHwSZ8kK6sIKg%3BFVO4sQIdGNJlACmpnqsdII6JRzFkwkLiVVa3WQ&oq=Modane&mra=ls&via=2,3&t=m&z=12

Let me know if it doesn't work.

hope this info will be helpful for you
Enjoy your vacation & trip
Cheers

[lyon]

Thank you so much for your suggestions gab!
We will make a round around the places you suggest.
Our programme is to spend 4 days living somewhere around Champery and another 4 days living around Menton!!!
We have already check a lot of places that we would like to go from alpineroads.com .
If you think that you have any other suggestions we would be gratefull!!!

A last question i have for you is, which site would you use to make room reservations in France.
I have already check venere , booking, expedia but they all seem to have the same hotels
Is there any other France or other site that you use?
Thank you for your help!!!

[CuT]

You may try hotels.com , or homelidays.com which is more for house rental. Last but not least, gites-de-france.com which is for house rental as well.

[lyon]

Thanks Cut
I 'm gonna search those sites.
Have a nice weekend!

[gab_45]

Sorry Lyon I have been off for a while.

Cut gave you the most important I believe (hotels.com, booking, expedia)

You may try hotels.com , or homelidays.com which is more for house rental. Last but not least, gites-de-france.com which is for house rental as well.

it depend on how you want to reside. You can also take a look to http://www.france-chambres-hotes.fr/. Chambres & table d'hotes (trasnlation : Room & Table hosting) is pretty cheap and cool to discover an area because you have rooms and breakfast and in some you can have a dinner to local guy so you can have typical meal with lot of good information about the area.

hope my answer it's not too late for you.
regards

[lyon]

Hi guys, hi gab...
i was about to write to you...
Well the truth is that informations that CuT gave me were very helpfull!!
Thanks CuT!!!
I did made two different apartment reservations throuth homelidays.co.uk and i am glad about them,
i also have prepared all the maps and my plans for France Alps and made a small travel guide (you can see the 1st page below )
and now we are just ready to start our tour at the begings of July....
France... we are coming :D



when we get back to Greece i am going to make a new post about our tour!!!
Until then.... drive safe

[CuT]

Enjoy

[phil]

Great ! Have a good trip !

[gab_45]

enjoy guys